![]() ![]() Section 5: Shotguns Subject: Maverick HS-12 Shotgun Msg# 826779
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A good shooter can make anything work better than it should, but with better technology available, why limit yourself?In a self-defense situation you're going to have enough problems already without dealing with those of your own making.
the above quote gives me trouble. first, a "good shooter" can make anything work. I see the double as defense as not necessarily being for the good shooter or accomplished shooter. I have known a number of non-shotgun folks who for one reason or another struggled with a pump gun and were either unwilling or unable to practice enough to make one run well in the middle of the night when the glass breaks. for them a double is a viable option. "with better technology available" I have problems with this one as well. The pump shotgun is anything but cutting edge technology. i would assume cutting edge would be some clip fed semi auto. the technology conundrum is always present in gunning, there is always something that someone says is better, faster, stronger. but that doesnt mean it is best, and it certainly doesnt mean it is best for everyone. the double is about as old as firearm technology can get, and it has been used in a short barrel format for almost as long as it has been around, and for self defense. I find it arrogant to think that the most vetted form of self defense in the firearm world, that has successfully been used by solider, sailor, farmer, wife for hundreds of years, can somehow now be dismissed as no longer relevant. it is relevant. what mossberg and a couple of others have attempted to do is tweak it a bit. now I am not certain they succeeded. but i understand the temptation to modify something that has performed admirably for centuries. i own pumps,a semi and a double. My choice for middle of the night glass breaking is a double. I can deploy it faster, fire off 2 rounds faster, not have to worry about pumping or slide release but can concentrate on target acquisition and whether or not to shoot. If a HORDE of evil comes into my house, i will quickly determine the double is outclassed, true. I might attempt to reload or merely drop the firearm. But in numerous scenarios and conditions, I , who have been a shotgunner since I was 12, feel a double works better in that situation. I also think a beginner or one who is willing to commit to a minimum of practice might find that a better solution as well. Perhaps not in the format offered, (not sure on nonextactor o/u for defense) but the double should not be dismissed. until the revival of the cowboy shooters there really havent been affordable doubles out there that could serve in that duty, without some hunting and some smithing. |
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For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where: This is just my two cents. I'm not impressed. Get a bunch of gun guys together and give 'em a bunch of free ammo and they are going to have fun. If it's something different they are going to latch on to that because it's something different. Big boys aren't always that different from little boys when it comes to playing with toys. Even Gunsite instructors. It's not as if the place is still run by Jeff Cooper, who was a bit above all that. I don't mean to suggest that there is anything wrong with having fun or that I wouldn't have enjoyed myself with the group, but if you are going to be writing about serious tools, be serious about it and don't try to convert your readers with silly statements about the "paralysis that accompanies analysis." That after telling us how you have always felt that understanding self-defense wasn't simple and your students weren't stupid. Okay, Rich, enough clichés for one column. I'm glad they had fun, figured out ways to make a substandard weapon work better, got a little competitive on the Gunsite ranges, and made Mossberg some money...but a double barrel over and under is not the shotgun of choice for home defense, and no amount of commentary like this is going to convince me it is. A good shooter can make anything work better than it should, but with better technology available, why limit yourself? In a self-defense situation you're going to have enough problems already without dealing with those of your own making. |